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Re: New Clear War with Russia.

Postby fruitbat » Sun Sep 25, 2016 5:23 pm

It's worse than that.
They are calling out the USA effectively as an Evil Regime.

From my perspective America nowadays conducts itself politically in a similar way to the guy who sits at your table in the pub constantly muttering about how "it's going to kick off in here in a minute" and complaining about the bloke who keeps looking at him funny.

I may be wrong in my opinion of course, I'm only going by what I read and see on the news, youtube, zerohedge, and the conversations I have with my peers. I feel the russians got a shitty deal after the wall came down, I was expecting to see more, not less, russian product available in our marketplace and a rapprochment, whereas what we actually seem to have done, is tried to isolate them and surround them with missile bases of one sort or another, whilst simultaneously smashing up much of the middle east. What was actually done in syria (as far as I am able to determine, from my comfortable seat behind the keyboard) was to hit the whole countries water and electric infrastructure (Bomb them back to the stone age) whilst supplying nasty groups of deranged men with pallets full of the latest weaponry for unclear political reasons, which seem to desperately require the unseating of their President Bashir Al Assad. Despite the adventure being vetoed by the UK parliament, (that should have been a BIG RED FLAG) this hideous war against the people and infrastructure of syria alledgedly to fight "terrorists" was embarked upon. The US and it's (unoffical) caliphate army pressed on, until finally the Russians showed up and did the job we were supposed to be doing, in a very short time frame. This recent attack on an aid covoy for which the MSM loudly blamed russia, according to a video and commentry article on ZH was (aledgedly) actually prosecuted by Hellfire missiles, with their very distinct "halo" effect caused by the flouridated aluminium used uniquely in that missiles payload. If that is true, then the russians are indeed simply speaking the plain truth.

I hope I am completely wrong in my view point and analysis to be honest, because I see a very uncertain future ahead if the US and russia continue on their present paths.
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Re: New Clear War with Russia.

Postby fruitbat » Mon Sep 26, 2016 3:52 pm

This image encapsulates one popular way of looking at things...

http://thesaker.is/we-have-the-leader-of-isis/
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Re: New Clear War with Russia.

Postby Griffin » Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:45 pm

85 BILLION FOR NEW NUKE MISSILES — AND COUNTING

The September 12 to 16 issue of Bloomberg Business mentions the present 85 billion projected price tag of 642 new nuclear missiles the pentagon wants to buy. The price is already up from a previous estimate of 62 billion. It is only mentioned as an editorial “Digits” aside, along with a photograph of a nuclear missile launch.

So, yet another generation of ever more efficient nuclear missiles is being birthed. This illustrates why the Visitants’ agenda for a nuclear-free planet, which my lengthy research concludes exists, has to be multi-generational long-term. It has to allow for human follies, obstinacy, and limited free will, while conforming to their inherent policy of karma recognizing non-interference. Except, however, in the most extreme, planet threatening cases demanding a proactive limited intervention. I’m thankful for the latter exception.

It’s like the Malmstrom and Indio Conference events never happened.

Yes, we do need to reach accord with Russia, regarding nuclear restraint issues and a united front against extremist Islam.

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Re: New Clear War with Russia.

Postby nate » Thu Sep 29, 2016 4:10 am

Griffin wrote:So, yet another generation of ever more efficient nuclear missiles is being birthed. This illustrates why the Visitants’ agenda for a nuclear-free planet, which my lengthy research concludes exists, has to be multi-generational long-term.


I'm glad the Visitors are against nuclear weapons. They're a button that can't be easily un-pushed.

I wonder if there's something more to it than that, though. Maybe it's just my runaway imagination (especially growing up in the nuclear tensions of the 1980s), but since my teens I've often felt there's something fundamentally 'wrong' about nuclear fission. Hard to explain why I feel that; it's obviously been useful in many scientific and even medical areas. But... looking at the results of it, the long-lived energetic isotopes that can't be easily 'switched off', the failure to meet expectations, the worrisome safety culture around the industries that tried to deploy it (with the possible exception of US Navy nuclear submariners, who do seem to have a good record).. and then comparing it with, eg, electronics, which does have health and environmental problems around its manufacture, but once built the products seem relatively risk-free...

... It just feels in many ways as if nuclear fission is somehow the secular equivalent of 'cursed' or 'tainted' technology. As if there's a shadow over it and every application has a hidden cost. As if the process of getting heavy elements and splitting them is somehow fundamentally hostile to biological life. That it can be done, but it shouldn't be 'done here', in this biosphere, this stage of existence. As Robert Frost said: 'There is no strict line between wrong and right, but there are roughly zones'. And nuclear fission seems to belong to a zone that we don't. If we were metallic robots, perhaps, or some kind of plasma lifeform, it might be as safe to us as solar energy. But we're not. Our cells are like tissue paper and energetic ions are bullets. And we can't ever turn them off.

Many pro-nuclear activists laugh at that feeling, that intuitive sense of lingering horror and evil we get from thinking about isotopes and their bio-affects, and call it atavism, magical thinking, the non-rational mind. But I think they laugh because they know the feeling themselves.

The odd thing is that, at least for me, the lighter elements don't give me this same feeling. Hydrogen feels mostly 'clean'. Plutonium 'dirty'. The heavier the element, especially the trans-uranics, the greater the sense of dread.

This sense also turns up in a lot of UFO literature. I wonder if it's just 'preaching to the choir' - that people with a 'mystical' worldview naturally seek support for their non-scientific views. That's the consensus scientific view, and it could be at least partly right. But I do wonder if there's more.

Non-fissionable heavy metals are also bio-accumulative, as are other chemical toxins, and I think we need to stop and take a good look at what we're doing in every kind of manufacturing process. But nuclear fission somehow seems to compound the toxic risk load exponentially. CO2 in the atmosphere is today's big worry but I feel less intuitively concerned about that - I feel like it's not fundamentally bio-toxic so there's probably a biological/ecological solution for returning it to the ground. That's what trees do, after all. We'd have to stop and rethink a lot of our industry, but the planet could adapt on its own. But I don't think the biosphere has anywhere near the skills to adapt to nuclear toxins.

From the more 'mystical' angle, I've also been deeply concerned about what it means for the human 'noosphere' for multiple major powers to seek, possess and constantly retain the will and capacity to burn and poison entire continents. To look at the consequences of such an act and still say 'I choose to make this action possible'. If thoughts and emotions and ideas are real in some way, there must be some kind of 'spiritual' or 'noospheric' counterpart of atomic detonations hanging over us. The mere will to detonate an atomic bomb must cast its own psychic shadow. And that shadow must, in return, have a cost.

In the 1980s the psychic shadow of nuclear weapons leaked into popular awareness and culture in a deep way. Musicians, artists, writers, directors were all focused on what seemed an insoluble problem. In the 1990s, the conscious awareness of nuclear war retreated but something equally dark stayed in our culture. The fear changed through many forms: aliens, conspiracies, plagues, asteroids, zombies, the United Nations, finally settling on 'terrorists, refugees, immigrants and billionaires'... but the darkness itself doesn't seem to have changed much.

And the robots designed in the 1950s to end the world are still crouched in their silos.

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Re: New Clear War with Russia.

Postby fruitbat » Thu Sep 29, 2016 7:07 am

Nailed it.
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Re: New Clear War with Russia.

Postby fruitbat » Mon Oct 03, 2016 8:05 pm

Does your city appear in this list?

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/09/24 ... 73-and-74/

Heard about fukushima lately?

http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.co.uk/ ... on-of.html

Pesky isotopes are even worse than the wasps..
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Re: New Clear War with Russia.

Postby fruitbat » Fri Oct 21, 2016 6:40 pm

Read this today.

In other news, the skies are going apeshit over White Sands/Holloman AFB. This has been ongoing for the last 10 weeks. I witnessed 4 - FOUR - B-2 bombers in the sky at ONE TIME performing maneuvers, along with F-15/F-22 escorts and other light bombers that looked like F-111's, two months ago. Seen lot's of B-1 bombers as well, as well as B-52's w/escorts just yesterday. All-in-all, unprecedented activity in my 45-year history.

Hmm. I thought excercise, but he seems to think otherwise.
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Re: New Clear War with Russia.

Postby fruitbat » Wed Nov 09, 2016 2:47 pm

Mr Putin looks extremely relieved in todays picture of him!
(As am I, truth be told I didn't want little miss "we came, we saw, he died" cosying up to the nuclear football).
Maybe, just maybe, we can start to INCLUDE the russians again in trade and other agreements.
As a Brit I am very keen to enter into proper legal & fair trade with the Russians.
They have vast amounts of natural resources and being a somewhat fair minded and reasonable people,
(I think they have proved that on the world stage recently) maybe they could be pursuaded to recompense us for the unpaid royalties in respect of the Rolls Royce "Nene" gas turbine, unlicenced copies of which, got their airforce off the ground in the nineteen sixties and seventies IIRC...
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Re: New Clear War with Russia.

Postby G-Man » Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:21 pm

It seems to me that someone within the West's corridors of power is determined to create conflict with the RFR. From a simple Realpolitik perspective, Russia is not the greatest offender of Western sensibilities - unlike China and Saudi Arabia, for example, rather odious regimes both. Unfortunately the West does too much business with those nations to allow too much of a note of criticism, as can be seen from comments made by Pres Trump during his recent visit to China.

Egregious double standards is what I am seeing. What is a little less clear is why this should be the case.
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